Lago di Braies by Kyle Bonallo (ig: @kylebonallo)
Owl Creek Pass, Colorado
Anonymous asked:
You know how some people are going "this never happened" for historical facts? So last night I came across this Catholic guy who said "the Inquisition never killed anyone. The Inquisition did the inestigative job and handed the accused to the secular authorities. It was the secular authorities who carried out the punishments, so the Inquisition never truly killled anyone."
I swear, bro. Never thought I'd come across someone so delusional in my whole life.
theconstitutionisgayculture answered:
This is some Jigsaw ass logic right here, lol
Also, I wonder what he thinks happened during those “investigations”.
Basically nothing happened, actually; 99% of what you think you know about the Inquisition is myth. It was the fairest, most humane investigations in the world, for nearly its entire existence. There were extreme limits on the use of torture, both its severity and frequency, that not one other Early Modern court observed. And it only executed 4000 people in 356 fucking years (technically yes the state carried out the executions, but you’re right, that’s really irrelevant). Elizabethan England used rape as an interrogation tool—Richard Topcliffe, the Queen’s chief of secret police, was a serial rapist, eventually fired when he groped Elizabeth herself—and her younger brother Edward murdered 40,000 people in the single month of August, 1549, for not wanting the prayerbook changed. To say nothing of what Muslim or East Asian courts were like.
Besides, the Inquisition primarily dealt with Moorish terrorists, who pretended to have become Christian long enough to lull their neighbors into a false sense of security, then went on stabbing sprees in crowded markets (what does that sound like?). And the Moors were only forced to convert as a fallback—when the Reconquista finished, Spain initially said “You can stay and practice Islam in peace, just don’t attack us.” The Muslims responded with the stabbing sprees, and sabotaged coastal defenses, to make Spanish civilians vulnerable to slave raids by Barbary pirates. (Which could in no way help Moors, they just wanted Christians to suffer.)
Normally, when your community has committed 800 years of genocide, you don’t get “convert or we expel you”—you get murdered to the last man, woman, and child. Every Moorish center in Iberia had twice-annual mass murders of Spaniards, where they killed or enslaved every Christian they could catch; the Moorish ruling class was basically all blond by three generations after their first incursion into the peninsula, the children of successive iterations of Ibero-Visigoth sex slaves. There is still an artificial desert in northern Spain, that the Moors created by burning the vegetation, to starve the Christians out.
De-Nazification was a lot less careful about protecting the innocent than the Spanish Inquisition was. The Moors’ sex slaves were not treated as collaborators—unlike women who prostituted themselves to occupying Nazis to survive. (The other thing the Inquisition did was investigate and punish coerced conversions in the New World. Like I said, everything you think you know about Spanish history is a myth.)
I recommend the book Bearing False Witness: Debunking Centuries of Anti-Catholic History, by Rodney Stark. He’s an agnostic who got tired of how the English-speaking world might as well be using Klan pamphlets and Chick tracts as history textbooks. Also The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise by Dario Fernandez Morero and Sword and Scimitar: Fourteen Centuries of War Between Islam and the West by Raymond Ibrahim, if you want to understand just how fucking forgiving the Spanish actually were.
Abderraman III spent all his life bitter because his blue eyes. He had red hair too, but that he could disguise with henna. He couldn’t do anything about his eyes, thought. His forefathers had raped so many local concubines that he looked absolutely nothing like the arabian Omeya he was suposed to be. Oh, and Al-Andalus economy was entirely dependent in the aceifas, the raids into the Christian kingdoms to capture slaves. Yet, there are a lot of idiots, even in Spain, who romantize Al-Andalus and lament the Reconquista. A pity we can’t send them back to live like a mozárabe for some months. They could even learn something.